13:08:30 From Janelle Rainville (she/her) to Everyone: https://native-land.ca/ 13:08:49 From Robert Dallaway to Everyone: Six Nations of the Grand 13:08:55 From Eryn Griffith she/her to Everyone: Treaty 4 Territory 13:08:57 From Joshua Jansen to Everyone: I respectfully acknowledge that I work within the traditional territories of the Kwanlin Dün First Nation and the Ta’an Kwäch’än Council. C'est avec reconnaissance et respect que nous tenons à souligner que nous vivons et travaillons sur le territoire traditionnel de la Première nation des Kwanlin Dün et du Conseil des Ta'an Kwäch'än. 13:09:20 From Aaron Kelly to Everyone: Tkaronto - Anishinabek Nation, the Haudenosaunee Confederacy, and the Huron-Wendat 13:10:00 From russell martin to Everyone: The Royal Manitoba Theatre Centre is proud to call Manitoba home. Royal MTC is located in Winnipeg on Treaty 1 land, the traditional territory of the Ininew, Anishinaabe and Dakota peoples, and the homeland of the Métis Nation. We are thankful for the benefits sharing this land has afforded us, and we are committed to the responsibilities of the Treaty. Hiy Hiy, Miigwetch, Wopida and Maarsii. 13:10:03 From Jean Routhier to Everyone: From the beautiful lands of the Coast Salish 13:11:05 From Lisa Lahue to Everyone: Anishinaabe, including the Ojibway, Potawatomi and Odawa of the Three Fires Confederacy 13:11:14 From Janet Sellery to Everyone: Stratford ON is the traditional territory of the Anishnabek, Haudenosaunee (Iroquois), Ojibway/Chippewa peoples. This territory is covered by the Upper Canada Treaties. 13:11:49 From Sarah Blanchard to Everyone: Kwe’, Hello, Bonjour, Halo from Unama’ki, Land of Fog, park of Mi’kma’ki , the traditional unceeded lands of the Mi’kmaw people (aka Cape Breton Island, NS) 13:12:01 From Graham Price to Everyone: Algonquin 13:15:31 From Phil Schulze to Everyone: i thought this “end 10 out of 12 started in the USA? 13:16:08 From Graham Frampton to Everyone: In the spirit of respect, reciprocity and truth, I honour and acknowledge Moh’kinsstis, and the traditional Treaty 7 territory and oral practices of the Blackfoot confederacy: Siksika, Kainai, Piikani, as well as the Îyâxe Nakoda and Tsuut’ina nations. I acknowledge that this territory is home to the Métis Nation of Alberta, Region 3 within the historical Northwest Métis homeland. Finally, I acknowledge all Nations – Indigenous and non – who live, work and play on this land, and who honour and celebrate this territory. 13:16:32 From Sarah Blanchard (she/her) to Everyone: There has been a really great discussion panel series linked with USITT about 10 out of 12s 13:16:41 From Janet Sellery to Everyone: There is lots of info on this topic at the No More 10/12s website: https://nomore10outof12s.com 13:16:57 From Aaron Kelly to Everyone: I forgot to acknowledge the the current treaty holders, the Mississaugas of the Credit First Nation. 13:22:38 From Janet Sellery to Everyone: Fatigue is a form of impairment like drugs or alcohol. It makes every types of risky work more dangerous - working at height, rigging, construction, electrical work etc. Supervisors are responsible for ensuring their workers are rested enough to work safely and they must create an environment where workers feel OK about speaking up when they are tired. That may mean assigning them to low risk work, letting them take time for a nap or sending them home. This is especially challenging for freelancers who feel they must take every call, even when they are already exhausted. 13:23:28 From Sean McIlveen to Everyone: How legitimate is the concern of Continuity for show? Also, where is this conversation in regards to labor standards - we're not unique in the situation of 60+ hour weeks, where we have oilfield and trades workers doing the same 13:23:29 From Janelle Rainville (she/her) to Everyone: It is about changing expectations. 13:23:42 From Janet Sellery to Everyone: I need to head to another meeting but I look forward to continuing this discussion. 13:24:01 From Julian Sleath to Everyone: Just asking and assuming they are going ahead. Is anyone planning some screenings of the Tokyo Olympics in their spaces ? I know that CBC Sports are not doing any licensing for public viewing. - Julian 13:24:45 From Janet Sellery to Everyone: PS If you plan for crew to share roles from the start, it can be done. 13:25:31 From Jean Routhier to Everyone: It builds redundancy 13:26:03 From Royal MTC - Russell (he/him) to Everyone: Hi Eryn... how did you juggle two crews once you were into runs? or was the second crew just for tech? 13:26:22 From Tammy Faulkner to Everyone: I work in a IA road house and we're in the process of training alternate heads to keep overtime down to keep a work life balance. 13:27:08 From Julian Sleath to Everyone: Changing the IATSE crew in Toronto is not so money saving as now ( in many theatres ) they get time and half after 5pm even if it's their first call in the day. 13:27:16 From Sarah Blanchard (she/her) to Everyone: It’s a bit frightening here to think that partially out of necessity a previous production having ‘succeeded’ on a tight timeline for a designer or labours and technicians. It trickled out over time as to being interpreted as that should be the expected amount of time budgeted to offer a designer/labourer/technician to do their job rather than actually looking at the requirements of the show. 13:28:25 From Eryn Griffith she/her to Everyone: We had alternate operator for this. We gave both operators opportunity to run the shows in tech rehearsals. We hadn’t gotten to the point of figuring out mixing for a musical but were working towards this as a training piece 13:29:02 From Phil Schulze to Everyone: Phil F Arts Club has done what you describe for years 13:32:25 From Royal MTC - Russell (he/him) to Everyone: there are also clauses in some agreements that say your can't cut a member in order to avoid OT 13:34:09 From Monique Corbeil to Everyone: Has there been any discussions with ADC (Associated Designers of Canada) regarding this? 13:34:18 From Sean McIlveen to Everyone: ^^^ 13:34:44 From Sarah Blanchard (she/her) to Everyone: ADC is part of IASTE now but that would be a very good idea 13:35:23 From Royal MTC - Russell (he/him) to Everyone: we dare doing 8 hour days until cast arrive. Hard to do 8 hours only when cast on stage as you still need note time to fix stuff while cast was offstage. - this might be a split shift solution 13:36:21 From Royal MTC - Russell (he/him) to Everyone: are doing.. 13:36:38 From Monique Corbeil to Everyone: And what about Equity? for the actors? 13:36:55 From Tammy Faulkner to Everyone: Nb too. We'll likely be short staffed in the fall. We're losing casuals and if we get as busy as expected we'll be struggling 13:42:38 From Robin Gaunt | he/him to Everyone: Venue side here as well - we do a very similar thing, though our venue is extremely limited in our available time so traditional tech week is not a thing. Overtime starts after midnight regardless of hours worked, and our technical director controls all of the scheduling and fees for any tech requirements. 13:48:44 From Tammy Faulkner to Everyone: Yes! Former stage manager here. 7 days a week not uncommon 13:49:03 From Royal MTC - Russell (he/him) to Everyone: in my old summer stock we had a reh SM and a calling sm to help in tech week 13:49:36 From Sarah Blanchard (she/her) to Everyone: Education wise: I’ve been really impressed with some young people’s literacy when it comes to setting boundaries (regarding overload) but there is still this tradition and eagerness to please and ‘must say yes’ in order to get that next job or prove themselves that essentially lays down a pattern of behaviour that leads to burnout. And I recall being lucky that I was prepared for both realities in my schooling but learning to really to advocate and value my boundaries more probably could have been stronger. 13:50:06 From Tammy Faulkner to Everyone: Pay is good but work life balance is crap 13:50:35 From Sean McIlveen to Everyone: Why aren't ASMs being used? Why isn't there an alternate? What happens if there's illness? 13:50:51 From Tammy Faulkner to Everyone: Asm is usually just as busy 13:51:08 From nicholas timmenga to Everyone: Another thing is where running crew then also stays to do notes after rehearsal. That really adds up too. Often there isn't enough crew to have a secondary crew come in when the theatre is too far from "civilization" 13:51:17 From Janelle Rainville (she/her) to Everyone: ASMs are being used. They just have to be bumped up to SM pay in order for that to happen. And like Tammy said - ASMs have their own work. 13:51:17 From Tammy Faulkner to Everyone: Being sick isn't really an option most times especially in a rural place 13:51:28 From Sarah Blanchard (she/her) to Everyone: Sometimes just getting an asm is a struggle 13:52:11 From Sean McIlveen to Everyone: Maybe that means the organization needs to do one less show in a year to afford to do the thing they're actually trying to do 13:52:29 From Janelle Rainville (she/her) to Everyone: ^^ What Sean said. :) 13:52:43 From Tammy Faulkner to Everyone: Agree!! 13:53:39 From Sean McIlveen to Everyone: We're coordinators, organizers and budgeters. What's the REAL cost of business given the ideal circumstance and having the coverage we want? 13:54:02 From Matt Frankish to Everyone: We need some carrot to go with the stick of increased cost. Ie: we have to “sell” these concepts to Producers and ADs 13:54:23 From Sarah Blanchard (she/her) to Everyone: how many shows pre-covid really could’ve gotten shut down due to gastro-illness, show flus, or strep going through the cast/crew? 13:55:04 From Matt Frankish to Everyone: Ie: a midnight 3-hour lighting re-hang: maybe we can get it done in 2 hours if we do it at midday tomorrow. Fir example 13:55:18 From Sarah Blanchard (she/her) to Everyone: Yes @matt 13:55:36 From Sean McIlveen to Everyone: Or maybe the Producers and ADs aren't the ones who should be in charge of the purse strings, and the Company Managers and Production Managers should. 13:56:07 From Matt Frankish to Everyone: Tbf, that is literally the producers job description, no? 13:56:10 From Eryn Griffith she/her to Everyone: This is a conversation we are having with our AD and ED. It has to be a standard for all levels. Continuity has to be balanced with the cost of harm when we talk about producing a show. It is also the reason we don’t let go an abusive personality mid show. We need to find ways to manage this idea that only one person can fill a position or that we can’t replace anyone during a process. 13:56:29 From Sean McIlveen to Everyone: You can't build a house on sand and not expect it to wash away in the Tide. 13:56:47 From Sean McIlveen to Everyone: You have to build the foundation and framework. 13:56:50 From Sean McIlveen to Everyone: and work to that 13:57:13 From Julian Sleath to Everyone: I have a hard stop at 2pm today but a big thanks to all of you for a honest and tough conversation. Keep well and stay safe - Julian 13:57:54 From Janelle Rainville (she/her) to Everyone: Thank you to everyone for joining today. 13:57:55 From R Allan Ross to Everyone: Thanks everyone, this has been a great conversation, Hoping we can keep this going. 13:58:22 From lisa sciannella (she/her) to Everyone: thanks everyone! 13:58:24 From Sarah Blanchard (she/her) to Everyone: Thanks everyone 13:58:52 From Eryn Griffith she/her to Everyone: Thanks All! 13:58:58 From Robert Dallaway to Everyone: thanks all 13:59:09 From Royal MTC - Russell (he/him) to Everyone: thanks all! 13:59:16 From Jacquie Lazar to Everyone: Thank you 13:59:43 From Susan Worthington to Everyone: Thanks All!